Churches have been reopening now for many months, mostly to great disappointment. So many church members and pastors believed that there would be a flood of relieved church members and guests rushing back to fellowship, worship, and in-house worship only to see their hopes dashed. In the US, attendance numbers or in-person church worship appears to be running between 30 to 60 percent of post-pandemic numbers, with a few exceptions … a very few exceptions. In this episode, Drs. Kris and Bill have a lively conversation about what post-pandemic church growth may look like.